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The Crotty Farm Report's avatar

1. On Presidents versus persons, Jack Smith is charging Trump with election interference. Our current President, Joe Biden, is also guilty of election interference. You long ago refused to deal with my point about Anthony Blinken orchestrating the intel chief letter that won Biden the 2020 election. I've reported at length on this in various CFRs. 2. While Vice President, Biden was engaged in influence-peddling, certainly as bad as election interference; 3. You keep dropping all the examples of Democrats calling for or applauding political violence. You don't deal with the granular points, so you lose those too; 4. There is no evidence that Trump supported or hoped for violence; 5. There is strong evidence that Trump asked in advance for National Guard help at the Capitol, but Bowser and Pelosi blocked him. He was trying to prevent violence, not support it. By their dereliction, Dems clearly wanted violence. 6 I give examples of specific Dems, but you keep dropping those; 7. You are getting ad hominem, lazy, hurtful, and personal in saying I support terrorism when I am just deconstructing the flaws in your arguments and the evil Trump-is-Hitler canard. 7. The Chuck Manson analogy is random and irrelevant. The major threat to the republic right now are Joe Biden and Democrats, with their lies, disinformation, censorship, lawfare, and election interference. Not Mansonesque, but pretty darn diabolical.

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The Crotty Farm Report's avatar

My question is whether anti-war Trump will have what it takes to do what is necessary to clamp down hard on Dem-encouraged political violence. Because it's coming. Soros is funding it. And should there be mass deportation of illegal immigrant felons, the violence will be everywhere. The Dems have shown their propensity to suspend due process and the rule of law to get their way. We as a nation need to be ready. See below: https://open.substack.com/pub/crotty/p/prepping-for-woke-apocalypse-the?r=lnico&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Duncan Sylvester's avatar

Jim, Nazi's were socialists is a common misnomer. It was primarily anti immigrant anti jewish party. Germany for germans party. Hitler molded the Nazi party into the ultimate far right killing machine. Trump has transformed the Republican Party into his own party and he is an authoritarian leader who is openly anti democratic. Trump is dangerous because he is impulsive bumbling divisive and anti democratic.

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The Crotty Farm Report's avatar

I don't think you analyzed my piece very closely. In practice, not theory, not opinion, the Nazis were Socialist. In practice, Trump is anti-Socialist, anti-interventionist, pro-federalist. You loosely caricature Trump as "authoritarian" and "anti-democratic" without addressing my deconstruction of these claims. In practice, in the real world, the Democrats have been authoritarian and anti-democratic. Examine my breakdown of real bona fide Democratic Party actions and how they are projecting their own perfidy and evil onto Trump. Go deeper, more granular, and you too will grasp the treasonous crimes perpetrated by Democrats in response to their necessary and distracting straw bogeyman Orange. But thank you for sharing. Your heart is in the right place, but your aim is off.

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Duncan Sylvester's avatar

We disagree on the first point. Encyclopedia Britannica not a controversial organization has an article explaining how Hitler took over the Nazi party and made it into a racist fascist paramilitary war machine.

https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

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But your analogy and definition do not apply to the Trumpster: 1. Nazis rigged elections, created a false flag around an arsonist, and got Bismarck to suspend elections as an emergency measure. No such thing happened with Orange and his posse. In fact, those types of measures were used by Democrats against Trump and the GOP: the treasonous false flag Trump/Russia collusion hoax; the Blinken-coordinated intel spook lies about Hunter's laptop, for which they shoud be tried; the FISA court lies; the suspension of state election laws due to the "crisis" of COVID; the use of enormous state and Big Tech power to censor Trump and GOP speech; the use of lawfare to silence political opposition. 2. You keep talking about "war machine," but again it seems you have not read my piece. Trump is no war-monger. He's anti-intervenionist, anti-NeoCon. He ran against the military adventurism of the uniparty. The only successful, well-organized violent paramilitary action has come from the Socialist Left: BLM, Antifa, F the Police, the Pro-Hamas anti-Semitic campus militants, more. Left-wing groups have been engaging in terrorist actions for almost a decade in some cases. I've experienced their actions in both Lincoln and Omaha. And the only racism or even stoking of race has come from

the DEI Left, which I also addressed in the piece. Trump is "yugely" popular with Asians, blacks, and Hispanics. You got the wrong bogeyman, friend. Sorry. You can tip over your king here if you want, LOL.

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duncan sylvester's avatar

Jim, Trump and team orange plotted and conspired to overthrow our democracy culminating on Jan 6.

Saying he’s no Hitler doesn’t change that.

Repeating your litany of grievances about Democrats doesn’t change that.

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The Crotty Farm Report's avatar

1. We are a republic, not a democracy; 2. Trump protested against the certification of an election, just like Dems who refused to certify in 2000, 2004, and 2016. The Dem reasoning was flawed. Trump's reasoning was flawed, but protesting certification, even if based on flawed reasoning, is not illegal. Trump also took advice from lawyers on this head, for which he cannot be blamed; 3. No court has charged him with insurrection, let alone abetting one. Jack Smith did not even charge him on that head, so your claim is not supported by any valid warrants. And SCOTUS might rule soon he was within the scope of POTUS immunity; 4. My points about Democrats are not personal grievances, but just facts about Democratic treasonous actions, all of which you fail to address. No clash on even one point. Running with an ad hominem does not magically erase your need to clash with particulars. You dropped them all, so they all flow my way. Which means I have now turned your Trump-Is-Hitler canard and proven that the Dems are the true authoritarians. Now that you concede here that Trump is not Hitler means you have lost the key argument. Third round knockout.

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Duncan Sylvester's avatar

I have never said Trump is Hitler. I said Trump is anti democratic and an authoritarian. I only claim that your fixation on arguing Trump is not Hitler and that Democrats are horrible is a distraction from what Trump and his administration and supporters have done.

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